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Lord Aslan
20 May 2017, 08:12 AM
Some interesting alliances out there. Looks like we picked quite the server to come practise on!

I'll get the ball rolling by asking about D.Inc (http://ts5.travian.co.uk/allianz.php?aid=30). Who are they, where have they come from etc?

commander
20 May 2017, 04:45 PM
No idea on that, but I agree it has seemingly started with quite a bit of competition all over the place. Not what I was expecting :D

Unklelol
20 May 2017, 08:47 PM
Busiest server I have seen for a while on the UK domain with over 1.2k registered players

Trouble
20 May 2017, 09:43 PM
162495
glad helm

tiger
20 May 2017, 11:07 PM
Anyone planning on putting together an alliance analysis?

commander
21 May 2017, 01:04 PM
Think it's a bit early for that yet.

thedevilexists
21 May 2017, 09:03 PM
Some interesting alliances out there. Looks like we picked quite the server to come practise on!

I'll get the ball rolling by asking about D.Inc (http://ts5.travian.co.uk/allianz.php?aid=30). Who are they, where have they come from etc?

I could tell ypu but then i would have to kill you lpl

Elisa
22 May 2017, 12:12 AM
:Popcorn:

abyss
22 May 2017, 08:51 PM
162495
glad helm

whats funny is the 2nd and 3rd ones sold for much more :o

commander
22 May 2017, 09:22 PM
It's a bit mental really isn't it :roll:

Da5id
22 May 2017, 09:36 PM
This looks like a fun server

Lord Aslan
23 May 2017, 09:45 AM
Its A Cracker was the first to settle. Deserves it considering he payed 200k for his glad helm lol. No idea who pushed him that high. I converted gold just so I could see who it was paying 200k lol!

tiger
23 May 2017, 11:10 AM
... and Lord Aslan is number 2 :-)

thedevilexists
23 May 2017, 12:28 PM
Well la getting early settle aint nothing new wonder how many players pushed him to get settled and how many will now be told to push that 15c as it for the good of the alliance

Lord Aslan
23 May 2017, 01:56 PM
Yes clearly... when pushing isn't even possible while in protection lol. Also I had to wait like 24 hrs for culture points, resoruces were never the problem, thats what oases are for.

jappa
23 May 2017, 03:12 PM
Some interesting alliances out there. Looks like we picked quite the server to come practise on!

I'll get the ball rolling by asking about D.Inc (http://ts5.travian.co.uk/allianz.php?aid=30). Who are they, where have they come from etc?

D.Inc was started by a player who deleted his account. Bazoooka and Kingslayer are doing the honors at this moment. Right now just a bunch of new players in NW, but busy with organizing the alliance.

Congrats with your 2nd village.

Fluffy
25 May 2017, 07:56 PM
Well la getting early settle aint nothing new wonder how many players pushed him to get settled and how many will now be told to push that 15c as it for the good of the alliance

They didnt need pushing and neither have those with settlers onroute plus we dont do pushes unless its to get the embassy levels up & they arent one of the embassy holders.

thedevilexists
25 May 2017, 08:33 PM
Come back in a month tell me that :D

Lord Aslan
25 May 2017, 09:33 PM
At that point everyone would be an embassy holder :roll:

notorious crunchie
30 May 2017, 07:33 PM
I've been told I spam too much on my server, would you mind if I come and spam over here instead?

Lord Aslan
30 May 2017, 08:45 PM
Lol sure, give it your best shot ;)

Whitelultsch
31 May 2017, 02:20 AM
So apparently D.Inc got destroyed today

Discussions of bans is not permitted

Any comments on the server's development so far?

Top 10 raiders are split quite evenly amongst the 4 quadrants, with 2 coming from South East, 2 from North West, 3 from South West and 3 from North East. Obviously Top10 raiders is heavily influenced by competition for the ress in the area.

jappa
31 May 2017, 09:50 AM
Yes indeed D. Inc is gone. Hopefully we will reorganize things pretty soon.

commander
31 May 2017, 11:18 AM
TBC/TBA look like the ones to beat :idea:

D.Inc look to be regrouping.

RBS look OK.

TE have a lot of players already, although seemingly a mix of good and perhaps not so good.

EFH quietly going about business.

BBT have a weird plan of forcing everyone to settle their second village near a WW site... :roll:

notorious crunchie
31 May 2017, 08:13 PM
RBS look OK.

Ok?

Have you seen their rates?

I wouldn't bank with Royal Bank of Scotland personally but each to their own

commander
31 May 2017, 09:37 PM
Ok?

Have you seen their rates?

I wouldn't bank with Royal Bank of Scotland personally but each to their own


There's so much taxpayers' money invested in them, we're in too deep now :(

thedifference
05 Jun 2017, 10:02 PM
So whats going on in server 5? Obviously we have past champions in TE but they look vunerable if dont meta up, TBA TBC look big but a few are being farmed by the Sparta and AOW allies. EFH Will dominate their quad until they quit. Interesting times ahead.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 12:05 AM
Interesting how several ally-less accounts seem to be drawn to settle their 2. village right next to Its a Cracker :roll:

thedifference
06 Jun 2017, 12:33 AM
Interesting how several ally-less accounts seem to be drawn to settle their 2. village right next to Its a Cracker :roll:


Now what are you trying to say ;) yes It does seem funny.....

jappa
06 Jun 2017, 08:40 AM
Interesting to see that TE need so many members to keep up with the raiding. But well they do have the best croppers along with TV and TBC.

Elisa
06 Jun 2017, 10:54 AM
Interesting how several ally-less accounts seem to be drawn to settle their 2. village right next to Its a Cracker :roll:
What are you suggesting? Spit it out.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 11:58 AM
What are you suggesting? Spit it out.

I'm suggesting that those accounts are there to feed Its a Cracker with res. Why have just the production of one account when you may have several right? ;)

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 12:30 PM
Or they're there for defense...

The question you should be asking is whether or not those accounts are being played by friends or by him ;)

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 12:38 PM
You are right Lord Aslan, that is a good question I should ask. Do these accounts have real human owners? And are the accounts played for their own benefit? As the #1 game rule says they should? :roll:

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 01:47 PM
See thats a tricky question. Lets say you have an account with 3 duals, they finish a server then go start a new server. But instead of playing on the same account, they decide to each create their own account, and all sit for each other. Then perhaps they decided that the best chance of having all three accounts in a strong position, is if they have a stronghold area, around a really good 15c.
To do that, they need to secure the 15c. It's in the best interest of all three accounts, that one of the accounts secures the 15c they're aiming for. So, in their best interest, they decide to push one of the accounts ahead of the others, so that it would beat everyone else to the 15c and thus secure the stronghold area for all three the accounts.

They send resources, they use their hero and cages to clear oases for the one account. The absolute emmediate benefit is only for the one account, but long term all three accounts benefit by having the one account go and secure the stronghold area.

Then once the stronghold area is secured and they've all settled there, they may decided that the account with the 15c should have it's aim as being the best offense account (teuton). One of the other two accounts, decides it wants to be the best defense account (Gaul). The other account owner suddenly has something happen in real life that means he really isn't going to be able to commit as much time to the game anymore. His account would probably become a farm (Roman). So they decide the Roman account, rather than becoming a farm, should be protected by the gaul. To do that, the roman sends resources to the gaul for its future use of defense. The Roman would also want to chief villages in the future- like on a weekend when he has a bit more time. But he doesnt have the time to farm and build a hammer... so he also send resoruces to the tueton to help with the building of a hammer, that will later benefit him. Thus the Roman is pushing both the gaul and the teuton, for it's own benefit later on.
Gaul account then builds lots of defense for the roman, but it also will want to chief villages later on, so the defense is for the roman as well as for the teuton- defend the teuton so the teuton can clear defense and help chief.
The teuton is being pushed by the roman, and has defense from the gaul, it can purely focus on building up it's 15c and later on hammers because he has both defense and even has a constant flow of resources.

And so you have it. An offense account being pushed with resources, and having a deffer, while having all accounts playing for their own benefit.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 02:01 PM
Thats a nice little story Lord Aslan, but there are 5 gaul accounts settling their 2. village right next to the 15 cropper. All on 6 or 7c. I'm not convinced they are there for their own benefit, either short term or long term ;)

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 03:12 PM
Oh I'm sure they're not there for their own benefit, and you're sure they're not, but there is a slight possibility that they are and therefore the MH can't just ban them.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 03:28 PM
I know this, and thats exactly why Im bringing it up here ;) Let everyone know the Cracker smells fishy :roll:

Ryder
06 Jun 2017, 04:05 PM
I do love this.

Just because a player is better than you doesn't mean they are cheating/bending the rules.

I got accused of cheating before for sending 24waves at someone and landing 4 same second all the way. I've also been accused of botting because I was sending farm lists every 5minutes. Yet every time reported I've never been banned. Fancy that.

20 says It's A Cracker won't be banned either, because they're playing within the rules.

Just because someone can play the game better than you, don't come crying to the forum about it.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 04:44 PM
That someone play the game better than me I dont mind at all :) It takes a lot of time and gold to build a top account, and many is willing to spend more time and gold than me, thats all fine. A lot sends better waves than me, I dont have the best internet or skills doing that, wish I were better but dont blame those that are better for my lacking. Micro farming is a strain, sending farmlist every 5 minutes I have tried, and its to much effort than Im willing to make, so those that do, kudos to them. This is not a complaint for someone being better than me Ryder. Im quite sure Its a Cracker wont be banned too, the 5 accounts around him might, but I dont think they will either. But Im still sure they are bending the rules. How do you explain the 5 accounts settling around Its a Cracker? What purpose do you think they have for settleing there? :)

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 07:20 PM
Tbh this is nothing compared to finals server where loads of players will have upwards of 30 accounts/bots around them. Perhaps he's practising ;)

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 08:12 PM
That some do worse dont make it ok :)

notorious crunchie
06 Jun 2017, 08:34 PM
I'm sure if Cracker does get banned it won't be his fault though ;)

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 09:11 PM
You know what I find most annoying? The countless farms that do get banned. I'm surrounded by villages that I can't farm because for some reason or other they've been banned.
Best way to hinder your apponents:
Step 1: Create 100's of accounts in their quadrant,
Step 2: Get them all banned.

notorious crunchie
06 Jun 2017, 09:43 PM
think someone did that on uk3

total players - 4139

pop of rank 1000 player - 167

i refuse to go through 1 by 1 and tally up the banned accounts but my guess is lots

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 09:53 PM
Quite clever really. Hard work creating that many email accounts though!

Elisa
06 Jun 2017, 10:43 PM
How do you explain the 5 accounts settling around Its a Cracker? What purpose do you think they have for settleing there? :)
Quite simple. In your fantastic detective endeavours you failed to notice that the area is fairly central. Of course people are settled nearby. I've lost count of the number of people in TBA who had to be talked out of settling right beside their own spawns. They simply assumed it's the smart thing to do (rather than go for a decent cropper somewhere). The majority of experienced players know better - and I might add, know they need to be in an alliance to protect themselves and enjoy the game.

However I'll note that despite your apparent Sherlockesque peacocking you've failed to note that accusing someone of cheating is not allowed on the forum. Hence my asking you to spit it out, I wanted to see if you'd be dumb enough or nasty enough to do so.

I have been accused of cheating and I know how it feels. I don't care who you are, if you knew how it felt to be accused unfairly, you would have to be a masochist to do it to someone else.

So how about you take your accusations to the MH if you have actual proof, or if I'm right and it's just snarky jealousy, maybe just eat them and stay silent like you should have done in the first place.

Caterwaul
06 Jun 2017, 11:02 PM
Its a central area yes, and some unexperienced players think its a good idea to settle right next to their spawn, I totally agree on this. The thing is, these accounts havent really done that :)

Lord Aslan
06 Jun 2017, 11:09 PM
To be fair though Elisa. Last USx I settled, as a gaul, a full 24hrs before anyone else on the server. I heard a lot of people complaining that I was cheating. I knew I hadn't, didn't even know anyone else on the server when I started let alone have anyone else helping me. But I could see why people would think I was cheating. Many people have cheated and ended up with my results in the past...
So I guess what I'm saying is that to be accused of cheating comes with the territory of playing top tier accounts. Many times top tier accounts do cheat so it's not unreasonable to suggest that someone might be cheating if suspcisious circumstances are noted.

notorious crunchie
06 Jun 2017, 11:44 PM
Gotta love the old, day 1, 20k res raided with 0 attack points ...

Lord Aslan
07 Jun 2017, 06:21 PM
That was Rayan lol. Unsurprisingly been caught out.

Miss Philaneous
08 Jun 2017, 06:24 AM
Does anyone know what happens to alliance bonuses when break ups and merges happen?

Fluffy
08 Jun 2017, 09:39 AM
Does anyone know what happens to alliance bonuses when break ups and merges happen?

The alliance that breaks up to merge into another loses all its resource contributions to bonuses.
The alliance that you merge into isn't affected in any way other than the members count.

Tigereye
08 Jun 2017, 10:13 AM
I have not played a uk server before and therefore I do not know the different players, but I have looked at some numbers of the top alliances. Remember this is very early on the server, so many things can change and hopefully will. These are my views and thoughts on the server so far, it is primarily concerning the critical second village, but there are many thing I do not know about the alliances and players.

Top alliances:
I think that the two main rivals so far are TE/{TE} and TBC/TBA, located in the SouthWest and NorthEast quadrants respectively.
They have almost the same number of accounts, 71 and 73, however TBC/TBA have a higher average population 551 compared to 440. But maybe more important all TBC/TBA have settled a second village, whereas TE/{TE} have 11 accounts that have not settled yet.
TBC/TBA have settled 52 (9 150%, 15 125%, 10 100%, 18 others) 15-croppers, 20 9-croppers and 1 6/7-cropper.
TE/{TE} have settled 38 (11 150%, 10 125%, 8 100%, 9 others) 15 croppers, 14 9-croppers and 8 6/7-croppers.
Again an advantage to TBC/TBA, the many 6/7 croppers settled by TE/{TE}, looks like a sign of inexperienced players.
However when I look closer a large number of the TBC/TBA 15-croppers are with relative low cropoases, but NorthEast just dont have that many 150% and 125% as SouthWest have, so TBC/TBA have been challenged in that area and several of their good croppers are located far from the center.

Good looking alliances are:
RBS with 44 accounts and have settled 22 (1 150%, 1 125%, 8 100%, 12 others) 15 croppers, 8 9-croppers and 8 6/7-croppers, located in the SouthEast.
TV with 23 accounts and have settled 21 (8 150%, 8 125%, 4 100%, 1 others) 15 croppers, 0 9-croppers and 2 6/7-croppers, located in the SouthEast.
EFH with 26 accounts and have settled 12 (3 150%, 0 125%, 5 100%, 4 others) 15 croppers, 6 9-croppers and 2 6/7-croppers, located in the SouthEast.
QoQ with 36 accounts and have settled 16 (2 150%, 3 125%, 6 100%, 5 others) 15 croppers, 6 9-croppers and 5 6/7-croppers, located in the NorthWest.
NoName 22 with accounts and have settled 8 (0 150%, 6 125%, 1 100%, 1 others) 15 croppers, 5 9-croppers and 4 6/7-croppers, located in the NorthWest around (220,120).

Alliances with some potential are:
Sparta with 50 accounts and have settled 13 (1 150%, 1 125%, 4 100%, 7 others) 15 croppers, 11 9-croppers and 13 6/7-croppers, located in the NorthWest and NorthEast.
BBT with 43 accounts and have settled 11 (0 150%, 1 125%, 2 100%, 8 others) 15 croppers, 11 9-croppers and 16 6/7-croppers, located in the South around (0,-100) WW village.
AOW with 41 accounts and have settled 8 (2 150%, 0 125%, 1 100%, 5 others) 15 croppers, 7 9-croppers and 14 6/7-croppers, located in the NorthWest and NorthEast.
NWA with 23 accounts and have settled 14 (3 150%, 2 125%, 3 100%, 6 others) 15 croppers, 3 9-croppers and 0 6/7-croppers, located in the SouthWest.

These are the alliances that I think can have an impact on the server.

My conclusions:
It looks interesting in the SouthEast with RBS, TV and EFH, will they unite to be a real thread against TBC/TBA and TE/{TE} or will they make war and weaken each, so they will not be a real thread later.
How quick can TBC/TBA and TE/{TE} gain control of their own quadrant and how will they do it (war or diplomacy).
What are the rest of the alliances plan, I feel that some of the alliances will be doomed if they are not going to do some smooth talking to some of the top alliances, but who are joining who and will it be before or after the artifacts have arrived.
I think we are looking at an interesting server, with many options for the "smaller" alliances to influence how this server will end. I surely hope we will see more than 2 sides battling for the WW-win in the end.

PS. Some of the numbers on croppers might not be exact, as I have been looking manually.

tiger
08 Jun 2017, 08:17 PM
Nice analysis, thanks Tigereye!

Lord Aslan
08 Jun 2017, 10:22 PM
Very nice. EFH are only here till the next RoA starts at which point we'll be disbanding. This was always the case and all new members were warned of this and had to accept certain terms and conditions before joining.

Caterwaul
08 Jun 2017, 11:56 PM
I expect EFH will wage war early then and make some havoc. Will be exciting to see where you choose to aim your stones Lord Aslan :)

Lord Aslan
09 Jun 2017, 12:01 AM
Indeed! I haven't a clue myself yet, though as you know, Sparta are starting to annoy me a bit :|

Elisa
09 Jun 2017, 12:48 AM
Yes indeed, some EFH members have no intention of leaving the server and are applying to other alliances already.
:Popcorn:

Lord Aslan
09 Jun 2017, 03:07 AM
That is of no issue to me or leadership. We came to uk5 because we'd won the current UK RoA 3 months early. We came to UK5 to allow EFH members to practise some skills in preperation for going to the international RoA when that starts. We made it clear that anyone wishing to join EFH had to agree to our terms and conditions which I'll make public by posting below.

A few (even a couple leaders) from EFH came to UK5 wanting to play a full server and as such did not join EFH but joined other alliances such as TE. We had absolutely no issue with it and had made provisions even before server start for members to join TE should they wish to. We ourselves were simply clear, that as leadership we would be disbanding the alliance because we are an RoA alliance and we will be giving the next RoA our full attention when it starts.

Each member and anyone applying was given the following message:

EFH is a pre-arranged alliance coming from the current UK RoA server. We've come to this server purely to practise and develop our skills and team work. If you'd like to join our team, you'd need to accept the following:

Terms and Conditions:

In joining EFH you accept that this server will not be played for end-game, but merely as training for the International RoA which does not have World Wonders.

In joining EFH you will play in the RoA style that the leaders will be guiding everyone through.

In joining EFH you will settle your villages where asked after the 2nd village, even though it is not an RoA server, remembering that this is a chance to practise the team-mindset needed for RoA.

In joining EFH you are aware that EFH on uk5 will be disbanded by the leadership when the RoA international server starts and that members will need to either abandon uk5 or find a new home.

If you're looking to play a normal Travian server and play it to end-game, then feel free to join one of the other alliances. If you do join us however and find you enjoy your time in EFH, then you will be welcome to follow EFH to the International RoA and join us there too.

commander
09 Jun 2017, 09:20 AM
Or you could just say "We're not sticking around and are moving to the next international RoA when it starts".

Terms and conditions? :roll: Why do you have to be so dramatic all the time? :soapbox:

Lord Aslan
09 Jun 2017, 03:24 PM
Lets face it, just wouldn't be me without it :tongue:

notorious crunchie
09 Jun 2017, 03:28 PM
Cos he's on T's & C's

That's how he makes more troops than we

Apocalyptic
10 Jun 2017, 07:43 PM
I think Aslan wanted to be a lawyer at one time, and has never given up his love for writing long (and slightly boring ;) ) contracts and documents

Lord Aslan
10 Jun 2017, 07:48 PM
Pfft... atleast I'm covered and no-one can say, "well I didn't know", or "I knew we'd be practising but thought I could atleast place my own villages" etc. More is less in the long run :ahoy:

jappa
20 Jun 2017, 01:30 PM
Seems like something is going on between Sparta and NoName, anyone who got some news? Or some reports to enjoy?

nowayout
20 Jun 2017, 06:15 PM
Could you tell me is it forbidden to share name of attackers and defender? If it is like that, meanless to share reports for us :)

MOD LMT
21 Jun 2017, 04:11 PM
Attack/defence reports no longer have to be anonymous, fairly recent rule change so some people might still think that names can't be displayed.


Could you tell me is it forbidden to share name of attackers and defender? If it is like that, meanless to share reports for us :)