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    Massive WWK with big play hammers = Loads of time dedication and Loads of gold.

    Not what I would describe in terms of 'being easy'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boxerboy89 View Post
    Massive WWK with big play hammers = Loads of time dedication and Loads of gold.

    Not what I would describe in terms of 'being easy'...
    yep, forgot about the gold thing
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    It seems there are quite a few extraordinary players left after all. I wonder why we never see any of it in-game.

    Oh, wait. Maybe because bragging on the forum is easy, but actually doing it...

    Theory and practice are two very different things. Any real wwk builder, one who has actually done a big wwk, will tell you it gets tough without help from allies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxerboy89 View Post
    Not what I would describe in terms of 'being easy'...
    Some people are just naturally gifted, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVT View Post
    Any real wwk builder, one who has actually done a big wwk, will tell you it gets tough without help from allies.
    Even harder if those that farm start to find that they are drying up although closer towards endgame I've found more players drop inactive.

    Building and feeding escort isn't particular hard it's the volume of seige that make's it tricky mainly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AVT View Post
    It seems there are quite a few extraordinary players left after all. I wonder why we never see any of it in-game.

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    Some people are just naturally gifted, right?
    You have to wait for the reports then. You see a 230k hammer on the last page. Splatted a smaller one and 2 other even smaller ones. Still got a bigger one going, and another one. Wait until evidence smacks you in the face, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setback View Post
    You have to wait for the reports then. You see a 230k hammer on the last page. Splatted a smaller one and 2 other even smaller ones. Still got a bigger one going, and another one. Wait until evidence smacks you in the face, I guess.
    Evidence? Sure, looking forward to it. Let's see you breaking all time records.

    You can post here all the reports you want but you can't prove you didn't have help, or that you don't have duals, or that you don't spend a lot of time on travian, or that you didn't buy loads of gold. That was the whole point of my initial claim. Even a noob can build 2 wwks at the same time and feed 1 million troops on his account as long as he is given the means to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVT View Post
    Evidence? Sure, looking forward to it. Let's see you breaking all time records.

    You can post here all the reports you want but you can't prove you didn't have help, or that you don't have duals, or that you don't spend a lot of time on travian, or that you didn't buy loads of gold. That was the whole point of my initial claim. Even a noob can build 2 wwks at the same time and feed 1 million troops on his account as long as he is given the means to do so.
    I think you are making up claims in your own mind. What I said was, It's not hard. It still stands, whatever else you make up is something I don't really care about.

    Look up the definition of hard, then come back. Buying gold isn't hard, spending time on travian isn't hard (which you don't have to, not much anyway, sending raids takes a minute), having a dual isn't something that is defined as "hard". Easily achievable.

    Do perfect follow homes every time = compared to building wwks it's hard, takes training
    Make educated guesses of where to put defense based on previous patterns = compared to building wwks it's hard, takes training and past experience
    Buying gold = easy, for people aged 15 and up
    Spending 1 hr on travian each day = easy
    Building a wwk while playing passive, even without help = easy, settle villages, click the build troop button, npc every now and then. I should know, I'm doing it myself.

    We can argue back and forth for ages, my opinion still stands. If you still thinks it's hard, well I'm sorry to hear that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setback View Post
    We can argue back and forth for ages, my opinion still stands. If you still thinks it's hard, well I'm sorry to hear that.
    We're never going to agree on that one then. I've never met anyone who's had to feed 600k+ troops alone saying it's easy. But if we have different opinions about what is easy or not then we're really not going anywhere.

    No one will win Sam, not much point in updating the WWs now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AVT View Post
    We're never going to agree on that one then. I've never met anyone who's had to feed 600k+ troops alone saying it's easy. But if we have different opinions about what is easy or not then we're really not going anywhere.

    No one will win Sam, not much point in updating the WWs now.
    Just to show you that I'm not lying. I've edited out some parts obviously since it's a live server and I'm not going to post my actual troop numbers for everyone to see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Setback View Post
    Just to show you that I'm not lying. I've edited out some parts obviously since it's a live server and I'm not going to post my actual troop numbers for everyone to see.
    The real question is, how many of those troops do you feed yourself.. without the help of any dummy accts, or without getting anyone else to store/feed them for you.

    I've seen a 650k hammer, all trained in one single village, so it is quite possible. Training requires no special skill. Feeding does.

    Quote Originally Posted by AVT View Post
    I've never met anyone who's had to feed 600k+ troops alone saying it's easy.
    The 650k hammer I'm talking about has been fed for over 3 months - around 290 by another player, and another chunk of 60k of it was fed elsewhere too, which means the owner of that hammer had to only feed 300k. with decent raiding, thats nothing hard to feed. Don't think you can prove that you feed that 700k without a diet/raiding dummy accts/or the help of your alliance. If you do, I certainly need a few lessons from you

    Also.. just a thought. Instead of 3 hammers equaling to 700k, wouldn't it be better to have 1x 700k hammer? would definitely be a record breaker, but everyone has a different style in playing, so I suppose having more hammers, rather than one huge suits you better..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    The real question is, how many of those troops do you feed yourself.. without the help of any dummy accts, or without getting anyone else to store/feed them for you.

    I've seen a 650k hammer, all trained in one single village, so it is quite possible. Training requires no special skill. Feeding does.



    The 650k hammer I'm talking about has been fed for over 3 months - around 290 by another player, and another chunk of 60k of it was fed elsewhere too, which means the owner of that hammer had to only feed 300k. with decent raiding, thats nothing hard to feed. Don't think you can prove that you feed that 700k without a diet/raiding dummy accts/or the help of your alliance. If you do, I certainly need a few lessons from you

    Also.. just a thought. Instead of 3 hammers equaling to 700k, wouldn't it be better to have 1x 700k hammer? would definitely be a record breaker, but everyone has a different style in playing, so I suppose having more hammers, rather than one huge suits you better..
    Except for a small while (Few days) when refreshing aa queue (just because I wanted to refresh it faster, no pushing) I'm feeding all troops myself. But then again I've been top raider on the server for a while so It's not so hard.

    Nah 1 hammer is boring, you want to have fun while building the hammer. Pointless to play an entire server for one attack in my opinion.
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    Which server are you playing again?
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    the biggest achievement in my eyes is to kill as many troops as you can, while losing as little of yours as you can
    its obviously very easy to spark an arguement in here, but id hate to make a 600k hammer just to hit a WW, when a 300k with enough cats will get the same result
    im not saying big hammers arent an achievement, because they, but personally id rather get visible attack score than sim a giant hammer
    ive said it before, but its like hanging a picture with a sledge hammer
    hats off to the super hammers on server 7,
    maybe on a busier server it would have been much harder to achieve such a feat

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    Taking a WW down generally depends on the amount of def in the WW and the level the wall is at when you hit.

    Say you hit a WW with 800k def + no wall then yeah you'd need less. So the 300k hammer would easily do the job. Now make that 2m def + a lvl20 wall then you'd need more. That 600k monster hammer would still zero the WW even without a rammer.

    It's all relative to the server and that particular WW. And you can't know these things when you start building a WWK. So you go as big as you can because it's more likely to do the job and flatten the thing .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Ghost View Post
    Which server are you playing again?
    I'm on Uk3
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    @ setback: I feel sorry for you. Smash are having an excellent server. You guys seem like a far more diverse and accomplished alliance than you were on uk4. You have an ally that is dominating in a way few others have. On a personal note if you have broken the all time wwk number that is fantastic, even as a dual account. Yet being so dismissive of it's difficulties belittles your achievement. If half of smash were pulling out the same numbers I'd have to agree. But if it is one or two then you are speaking nonsense. I wind you up, but it is clear your performance this uk3 has been ones of the best all-round performances ever, if you numbers are stating are true.

    As to the main point... boredom is a perspective, not an absolute. Thus whether wwk building is fun or not is down to the individual. For some they need a play hammer, others don't. What ever way you get there, I like compiling the records, so keep them coming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    @ setback: I feel sorry for you. Smash are having an excellent server. You guys seem like a far more diverse and accomplished alliance than you were on uk4. You have an ally that is dominating in a way few others have. On a personal note if you have broken the all time wwk number that is fantastic, even as a dual account. Yet being so dismissive of it's difficulties belittles your achievement. If half of smash were pulling out the same numbers I'd have to agree. But if it is one or two then you are speaking nonsense. I wind you up, but it is clear your performance this uk3 has been ones of the best all-round performances ever, if you numbers are stating are true.

    As to the main point... boredom is a perspective, not an absolute. Thus whether wwk building is fun or not is down to the individual. For some they need a play hammer, others don't. What ever way you get there, I like compiling the records, so keep them coming
    Well, Royal has left, so I've been solo now for a month.

    As for the wwk. I won't get the largest wwk nor do I plan to. I don't find wwk building that much fun to be honest. (The graph above is from getter, as you probably see, so you know what it shows.)

    I might say I don't find it difficult, but I would be lying if I said it was. I don't find -any- part of the travian gameplay difficult to be honest. My definition of the word might differ from yours, I won't deny that it is more time consuming or gold heavy than playing a "normal" account, because it is.

    As for your last words, yeah I completely agree. Whatever floats your boat.
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    Okay, fair enough. I understand the point better now, and agree. I'll never do it, I can't hack raiding, I find it boring.. maybe if I'd said said "belittling the commitment" (gold, time, etc), you would agree. It is what most probably mean, even if they say "difficult".
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    FINALLY, exile have hit a WW, took them long enough, 3 decent hammers. Not flattened it but cleared of troops for now

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    They have hit a WW before. Just not to this extent.

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