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    Actually they are better. Sorry but it's true, deal with it.

    Usain Bolt isn't faster then me he just spends more time running
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    Usain Bolt isn't faster then me he just spends more time running
    , surely that's less time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    They arent better than we are. They just spend more time in front of a PC.
    The hammer that Cali and I put out on the Merida account was done with 0 raiding. It was done with building troops every 2-3 weeks. It was done with trade routes. It was done with assistance from Chef (storage) and demon (1/2 arte in a village they chiefed off us). I'm really struggling to see how anyone could spend less time on their account. Our population was rubbish, we weren't aggressive simmers (after day 100).

    It isn't the time we spent on the account, we are just better than you. better planning, better hammer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    The hammer that Cali and I put out on the Merida account was done with 0 raiding. It was done with building troops every 2-3 weeks. It was done with trade routes. It was done with assistance from Chef (storage) and demon (1/2 arte in a village they chiefed off us). I'm really struggling to see how anyone could spend less time on their account. Our population was rubbish, we weren't aggressive simmers (after day 100).
    Haha I was talking about CR...your army....It was a nice army, but that one is easy to make. Seen much bigger clubbie hammers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    It isn't the time we spent on the account, we are just better than you.
    Well if you want to compare, your rammer cost 277mil resources to make...mine was at 167. I settled the cropper 2 months late, spent the first couple of months after that fighting with it...lost more than half on Kper. Only after that we started training. Also the acct had 6 WW feeders and well over 100k def troops. So I'm gonna disagree with you on that.

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    You can disagree with gravity if you like but you aren't going to float off into space
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    /me slowly puts the fine china away.


    As a silent observer I have to say there have been some mighty fine hammers and I'm most envious that I can't claim more than training a few prets towards helping those hammers' alliance. I can only speak for the team I partially played with but they're a fine bunch of people who combined time with skill, tactics, a love for the game and a whole lot of determination. And, as in all situations, a bit of luck too.

    They smashed one record but not another. Remember, it's just a game and we can't win everything. Someone threw lemons at you? Someone threw pears at me. You made lemon juice? I made cider. Yours is hydrating, mine is intoxicating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Haha I was talking about CR...your army....It was a nice army, but that one is easy to make. Seen much bigger clubbie hammers.
    I'm trying to be a nicer person so I won't make a sarcastic comment here, but are you being deliberately obtuse or do you genuinely not realise that the mace count wasn't what anyone was looking at?

    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Well if you want to compare, your rammer cost 277mil resources to make...mine was at 167. I settled the cropper 2 months late, spent the first couple of months after that fighting with it...lost more than half on Kper. Only after that we started training. Also the acct had 6 WW feeders and well over 100k def troops. So I'm gonna disagree with you on that.
    This statement implies that you played reactively, adapting your gameplay to the needs of your alliance. BF came onto the server with a pre-made plan and a pre-made alliance prepared to support him in that plan. Your need to adapt may have led to a frustrating server for you whereas BF achieved his goals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Well if you want to compare, your rammer cost 277mil resources to make...mine was at 167.
    There is one resource that you seem to have failed to consider and that is training time... there may only be 90 million (more than 50% extra) more resources spent on the merida hammer however they started training rams before day 30... to have a lvl20 siege workshop and to have the resources to run it 24/7 is a huge part of the achievement
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    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    Seen much bigger clubbie hammers.
    Looks like you are changing your argument here. I was comparing myself to you, not other Teutons. But to entertain the point fro a second... I'm not sure if you are talking wheat or mace. But the answer is still same. 3rd biggest mace on the UK server or 3rd biggest wheat when building a mace hammer on the UK server.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mercedes View Post
    do you genuinely not realise that the mace count wasn't what anyone was looking at?
    Exactly, we aimed to maximise the rams, which meant producing from a capital village from day 27 from a L20 workshop. By building from a capital it meant we achieved the 3rd most mace and 3rd most wheat from a mace hammer on the UK servers, even though we had no GB and GS usage. A clear advantage for others, that didn't have the focus on rams that we did.

    Quote Originally Posted by TKH View Post
    So I'm gonna disagree with you on that.
    You can make all the theoretical arguments you want, but the fact is, I didn't spend much time at the computer, and I was clearly better than you, producing a UK hammer that is better than all ram counts before me, all but two mace before me, all but 4 wph before me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    I was clearly better than you
    Better is more subjective and therefore interpreted differently by many, yes you did have an impressive hammer and kudos for that, but your ally also didn't have a WW campaign to run, I would challenge you to achieve a similar standard had you have had half your defence as standing and received more hammers your way because of it. As for the loss, it does not fall on one person, a combination of timing and other things had already decided that.

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    Just out of curiosity, how was timing relevant?
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    Hey folks

    This server has finished remember it just a stastic now like any other server, lets move on and fight again as ally or enemy on next one then can start gloat and (bit ch)
    all over again

    What's done is done time to move on, after all it only a game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loric View Post
    but your ally also didn't have a WW campaign to run, I would challenge you to achieve a similar standard had you have had half your defence as standing and received more hammers your way because of it.
    Let's be honest, the average player has very little to do that's different in a WW ally to a non WW ally. I've had accounts in both types of ally and you apart from building a few feeders near the WW the experience has been pretty much the same. If you are in a decent WW ally, they'd look after their top hammers just the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    By building from a capital it meant we achieved the 3rd most mace and 3rd most wheat from a mace hammer on the UK servers, even though we had no GB and GS usage. A clear advantage for others, that didn't have the focus on rams that we did.
    Makes no difference whether it's Cap or non Cap if focus is on seige anyway. Some of the best UK4 T4 hammers have been Cap hammers.

    Personally I'm not one for building record hammers/rammers, genuinely can not be bothered plus general lack of online time doesn't help & there's only certain people I'll dual with.

    I find that beating records encourages peoples ego's to go into over drive which is precisely what is happening here.

    Adam tone it down abit were not gonna have much room for conversation if your ego gets any bigger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Makes no difference whether it's Cap or non Cap if focus is on seige anyway. Some of the best UK4 T4 hammers have been Cap hammers.
    Hero helmets plus the possibility of an academic make a bigger difference to hammer size than GB and GS in T4. In some ways it was almost easier in T3 to keep queues going because raiding income was higher with the higher player numbers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffy View Post
    Personally I'm not one for building record hammers/rammers, genuinely can not be bothered plus general lack of online time doesn't help & there's only certain people I'll dual with.
    building a hammer is easy if you are prepared to npc a lot and sit on the sidelines. Just trade routes and queue troops. Playing actively offence and defence is much harder, especially if you are running an alliance. I think alliance def coordinator is the hardest to do well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercedes View Post
    Hero helmets plus the possibility of an academic make a bigger difference to hammer size than GB and GS in T4. In some ways it was almost easier in T3 to keep queues going because raiding income was higher with the higher player numbers.
    Yeah the Greats help the escort ofcourse but if your priority is seige then a non cap isnt a must have unless you wanna do the escort last minute with an Acad.

    Tbh I never play an active offense or defence as I generally don't have the time to with work commitments, etc; and as for being a def co-ordinator thats a no go for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercedes View Post
    Hero helmets plus the possibility of an academic make a bigger difference to hammer size than GB and GS in T4. In some ways it was almost easier in T3 to keep queues going because raiding income was higher with the higher player numbers.



    building a hammer is easy if you are prepared to npc a lot and sit on the sidelines. Just trade routes and queue troops. Playing actively offence and defence is much harder, especially if you are running an alliance. I think alliance def coordinator is the hardest to do well.
    Completely agree, an active off account requires more skill than simming troops for a wwk. Keeping our hammer growing took a huge amount of effort, but 95% of the time a trained monkey could have kept troops raiding and npcd 3 times a day to keep them from starving. It just takes a lot of determination to keep it all going as there is very little reward, other than seeing troop numbers growing and passing HoF hammers later on.

    I was extremely envious of watching Demon having all the fun with pulse! You need a very good team of players around you to keep it enjoyable, lucky for us there were plenty in Natars to keep it entertaining throughout. Not to mention a few on here too!

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    Would you dual with me fluffy? X
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    Quote Originally Posted by notorious crunchie View Post
    Would you dual with me fluffy? X
    I'm open to offers & pre-server talks as always although I have a few offers pending at the moment for next UKx or comx aswell as the next UK slow server & the next .com slow server to which I've not decided on just yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    I'm not sure if you are talking wheat or mace.
    Both

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    3rd biggest mace on the UK server or 3rd biggest wheat when building a mace hammer on the UK server.
    Only ever played .com servers before this one. Pretty sure they dont keep records there but you probably wouldnt even crack the top 20.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    Exactly, we aimed to maximise the rams, which meant producing from a capital village from day 27 from a L20 workshop.
    Most rams you ever needed were maybe 30-35k. You could have made some catas and done some damage but you had nothing else to play for. You were playing for a record only. You were better than me at making rams only.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloated Fish View Post
    You can make all the theoretical arguments you want, but the fact is, I didn't spend much time at the computer, and I was clearly better than you, producing a UK hammer that is better than all ram counts before me, all but two mace before me, all but 4 wph before me.
    You can make all the arguments you want, you spent your whole server making one hammer to take down one wall and get on a .uk record page with no chance of winning anything. Frankly I'd rather go xmas shopping.

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